Maintenance dosing: what is licensed, what is practised, and what is evidenced
Every withdrawal trial compared full dose against nothing. The clinically interesting comparison — full dose against a reduced one — has not been randomised.
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Side effects
Trial adverse-event tables count episodes reported to a study nurse. They are the best data we have and they systematically under-record the mundane.
The Journal has taken the view that the tolerability data in this class is better than its reputation and worse than its usage. It is drawn from large randomised populations with placebo comparison, weekly contact and systematic collection, which puts it well ahead of almost anything in the grey market. It also collapses duration, timing and severity into a single percentage, which is why two people can read the same table and come away with entirely different expectations. This file is an attempt to unpack it.
The pivotal semaglutide obesity trial randomised 1,961 adults to 2.4 mg weekly or placebo for sixty-eight weeks. Gastrointestinal disorders were reported by around seventy-four per cent of the active arm and about forty-eight per cent of placebo. Within that, nausea was reported by roughly forty-four per cent against seventeen per cent, diarrhoea by about thirty-two per cent against sixteen, vomiting by about twenty-five per cent against seven, and constipation by roughly twenty-three per cent against ten.1
Three features of that table are routinely lost. The placebo rates are high, which is what happens when a large population is asked systematically about gut symptoms every few weeks. The events were predominantly graded mild or moderate. And discontinuation attributable to gastrointestinal events ran to about four and a half per cent of the active arm, against under one per cent on placebo.
The gap between three-quarters of participants reporting a gastrointestinal event and four and a half per cent stopping because of one is the most informative thing in the table. Most of this effect profile is endured rather than disabling, and any account that quotes the first figure without the second is describing something other than what happened.
Slower escalation is the option most often left out of a discussion framed as continue or stop, and the trial protocols themselves permitted it. The middle course is in the protocols and absent from the summaries.
In the seventy-two-week tirzepatide obesity trial, nausea was reported by approximately twenty-five per cent at 5 mg, thirty-three per cent at 10 mg and thirty-one per cent at 15 mg, against about ten per cent on placebo. Diarrhoea ran between nineteen and twenty-three per cent across the dose range against about nine per cent, vomiting between eight and twelve per cent against under two, and constipation between seventeen and eighteen per cent against about six.2
The dose-relationship is present but not monotonic in every term, which is characteristic of adverse-event data at this sample size and a useful reminder that these figures carry confidence intervals nobody prints. Discontinuation for adverse events ran between four and seven per cent across doses against under three per cent on placebo.
Comparing across programmes is a trap. The semaglutide and tirzepatide obesity trials differed in duration, population, escalation schedule and adverse-event collection detail, and the apparent difference in nausea incidence between them is not a clean molecular comparison. The only defensible head-to-head tolerability comparisons in this class come from trials that randomised both molecules, and there are few of them.3
Reduced fluid intake is where the real harm in this effect profile lives, and it is prevented by the least interesting measure available.
On the dehydration pathwayA number in an adverse-event table counts participants who reported at least one episode of a coded term at any point during the treatment period. It says nothing about how many episodes, how long they lasted, or how bad they were beyond a three-level severity grade defined by interference with usual activity.
This construction has predictable consequences. A cumulative figure over sixty-eight weeks is the union of many short episodes and cannot be read as a prevalence. Two populations with identical percentages can have entirely different lived experiences. And severity grading captures function rather than distress, so an episode of severe nausea that did not stop somebody working is graded moderate.
None of this is a criticism of the trials, which followed standard practice and reported it transparently. It is a caution about a specific and common misreading: that a forty-four per cent nausea figure describes a state rather than an event count. The published tolerability analyses that break events down by timing and duration are considerably more informative than the summary tables, and are cited far less often.4
Pattern and trajectory discriminate better than intensity at a moment. Something that is settling and something that is worsening are different conversations even where they feel the same on the day.
| Event | Reported rate on treatment | Comparator | Reading |
|---|---|---|---|
| Gallbladder-related disorders | ≈2.6% (68 weeks) | ≈1.2% placebo | Real small excess; partly attributable to rapid weight loss |
| Adjudicated acute pancreatitis | Rare | No consistent imbalance | Earlier signal not confirmed in randomised outcome data |
| Ileus / intestinal obstruction | Post-marketing reports; rate not established | Not powered in trials | Recognise it; do not restructure a decision around it |
| Acute kidney injury | Uncommon | Context-dependent | Predominantly a volume-depletion event, not direct toxicity |
| Rates are from the semaglutide obesity programme and the large outcome trials where available. Post-marketing signals have no denominator and cannot be expressed as a rate. | |||
Discontinuation for adverse events ran to roughly four and a half per cent on top-dose semaglutide and between four and seven per cent across the tirzepatide dose range, against one to three per cent on placebo. The great majority of those discontinuations were gastrointestinal and the great majority occurred during escalation.12
Those figures should be read as a floor. Trial participants receive weekly contact, free product, a nurse who can be telephoned, and an investigator with a strong interest in retention, and they are pre-selected by their willingness to enter a trial. Real-world persistence data for this class is markedly worse, with a substantial proportion of people no longer filling prescriptions at twelve months, for reasons that combine tolerability with cost and supply.
The Journal draws one inference. If most intolerance-driven discontinuation happens during escalation, and escalation practice is the least evidence-based part of the treatment course, then the largest available improvement in outcomes in this class is probably not a new molecule. It is a better answer to the titration question, which nobody has run a trial to obtain.5
Nausea: the sensation preceding or in place of vomiting; a symptom. Vomiting: forceful expulsion of gastric contents; a sign. Retching: the effort without the expulsion. Early satiety: fullness disproportionate to volume consumed. Dyspepsia: upper abdominal discomfort, often used loosely to include all of the above.
Gastroparesis: a clinical diagnosis of delayed gastric emptying with characteristic symptoms and no mechanical obstruction. It is not a synonym for drug-induced emptying delay, and the two are conflated constantly. Ileus: failure of propulsion without mechanical obstruction. Obstruction: mechanical blockage.
Incidence: proportion of a population experiencing at least one event in a period. Prevalence: proportion affected at a point in time. Adverse-event tables report the first and are read as the second. Adjudicated: reviewed against predefined criteria by a committee blinded to treatment, which is a materially stronger standard than a reported term.
If one paragraph of this file survives, we would prefer it to be the one about fluid. The dramatic harms in this area are rare and the mundane one is common: appetite suppression removes the signal that drives drinking, and volume depletion follows quietly. It is prevented by drinking on a schedule rather than on a sensation, and it accounts for the great majority of renal events reported in association with these drugs.
Selected from correspondence received on this article. Writers are identified by initial, surname and city, verified before printing. Replies are from the desk that filed the piece or from the standards editor. Write to letters@compoundjournal.com.
Severity grading is doing a lot of quiet work. Most reported events sit in the mild to moderate categories, and a table that reports incidence without severity puts an inconvenience and a serious event in the same column.
— H. Ravensworth, York
Severity now appears alongside incidence wherever the source paper reports it, and where it does not we say so rather than presenting the count alone.
The most useful presentation I have seen was a cumulative curve rather than a proportion, because it showed both how many and when. It is not harder to produce and it is almost never chosen.
— H. Nakagawa, Fukuoka
Delayed gastric emptying explains a good part of the early symptoms and it is also part of the intended effect, which makes the framing of these as unwanted effects slightly awkward. Your piece handles the tension well rather than pretending it is not there.
— B. Ademola, Ilorin
It is the most interesting thing about the subject: the mechanism of the benefit and the mechanism of the complaint are substantially the same mechanism.
Where a trial permits a dose reduction, the reported tolerability figures describe a population that adjusted, not a population that persisted. It is a reasonable protocol and it means the headline rate is not a rate at the nominal dose.
— S. Bråten, Ålesund
Permitted reductions are the most common reason a tolerability figure cannot be read at face value, and they are almost always described in the methods rather than beside the number.
Endoscopy has its own considerations distinct from general anaesthesia, and the two get merged in most coverage. Residual gastric contents affect the procedure itself and not only the airway question.
— Y. Sasaki, Sapporo
Every withdrawal trial compared full dose against nothing. The clinically interesting comparison — full dose against a reduced one — has not been randomised.
The evidence base is thin and the document says so, which is to its credit.
The intervention with the clearest evidence is the one nobody frames as an intervention: adjusting the dose.
A survey of the maintenance evidence, which is shorter than the survey of the withdrawal evidence.
Rapid weight loss by any means raises gallstone risk. Separating that from a direct drug effect requires a comparator, and the trials have one.
The receptor populations that produce satiety and the ones that produce nausea overlap substantially. That is why the ceiling of this drug class is where it is, and it is…